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How I love to live in the counrtyside.
06-24-2016, 07:11 PM
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RE: How I love to live in the counrtyside.
I am not watching a 25 minute YouTube video.

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06-24-2016, 10:35 PM (This post was last modified: 06-24-2016 10:36 PM by Neonzapper.)
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America in November...




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06-25-2016, 05:44 AM
Post: #8878
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(06-24-2016 07:11 PM)Yaaay Wrote:  I am not watching a 25 minute YouTube video.

One of the best sitcoms ever!

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06-25-2016, 03:17 PM
Post: #8879
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(06-24-2016 07:11 PM)Yaaay Wrote:  I am not watching a 25 minute YouTube video.

old people have no attention span.
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06-25-2016, 06:47 PM
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that isn't attention span, that is no boredom threshold.

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06-25-2016, 11:06 PM
Post: #8881
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(06-25-2016 06:47 PM)Yaaay Wrote:  that isn't attention span, that is no boredom threshold.

you didn't say "i only made it three minutes before the writing got repetitive." you said "i am not watching a 25 minute youtube video." it's a weird hybrid of generational stereotypes; an old person's unexamined contempt for new media and a young person's steadfast avoidance of depth.
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06-26-2016, 01:43 PM
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You are both right.

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06-27-2016, 07:14 AM
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06-29-2016, 08:21 PM (This post was last modified: 06-29-2016 08:23 PM by trickydicky.)
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Well done Yaaay and his mate nigel farage for helping to ruin this country through direct democracy.





Nigel sums up Yaaay perfectly.

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06-30-2016, 12:18 AM (This post was last modified: 06-30-2016 12:19 AM by leonbray.)
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Check the voting statistics.

If the younger generations has chosen to vote, then the result would have been different. Thy have let people who will be dead in 20 years determine their future

Some analysts have extrapolated that only 36% of the 18-24 age group voted and they voted 64% to remain. As opposed to the 65+ age group, which had an estimated 83% turnout and voted 58% to leave. (I know there are other factors here like the total population in each age group and that voting in the age group where there was so low a turnout, might be skewed)


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06-30-2016, 01:04 AM
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yet another example of the boomers closing off millennials' opportunities in favor of insulating themselves and their short-sighted interests. the only thing missing is calling millennials narcissistic and entitled while they do it.

don't get me wrong, the civil rights revolution of the 60s was great - much appreciated - but was it necessary to follow that up with destroying the economy and the environment?
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06-30-2016, 04:14 AM (This post was last modified: 06-30-2016 04:18 AM by leonbray.)
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(06-30-2016 01:04 AM)frankdouglason Wrote:  yet another example of the boomers closing off millennials' opportunities in favor of insulating themselves and their short-sighted interests. the only thing missing is calling millennials narcissistic and entitled while they do it.

don't get me wrong, the civil rights revolution of the 60s was great - much appreciated - but was it necessary to follow that up with destroying the economy and the environment?

The didn't close of the millennials opportunities, the millennials failed to take advantage of the opportunity by not voting

Just illustrates the lack of personal responsibility and don't care attitude among many millenials

Democracy rarely works when you have a binary choice

Nice trolling BTW

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07-01-2016, 12:21 AM
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millennials need to vote more. no doubts there. i don't think it's because they don't care. i think it's because they feel that it wouldn't make a difference. there's room for debate as to whether they're right about that (mostly depending on whether you look at it in a macro or micro scale), but it's a bad state of affairs nonetheless.

young people never vote as much as old people. that's not new. it's not an excuse, but it's helpful context to note that it isn't something distinctive about this generation. just like i don't slag off boomers as much for being afraid of hip hop. being afraid of young people's music is just what old people do. doesn't make it okay, but it mitigates.

but i'm not going to give the old people a pass for sacrificing their children's/grandchildren's opportunities because they're xenophobic just because young people didn't stand up. it's still wrong, regardless of the amount of follow-through from the opposition.

i don't know how you'd put the choice to leave the eu in a non-binary way. i guess the uk was already only partly in the eu, so maybe they could be even less in the eu without completely leaving, but it seems like it would quickly get pointless in that pursuit. feel free to explain how i'm wrong about that, because it's certainly possible.
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07-01-2016, 03:41 AM
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(07-01-2016 12:21 AM)frankdouglason Wrote:  millennials need to vote more. no doubts there. i don't think it's because they don't care. i think it's because they feel that it wouldn't make a difference. there's room for debate as to whether they're right about that (mostly depending on whether you look at it in a macro or micro scale), but it's a bad state of affairs nonetheless.

young people never vote as much as old people. that's not new. it's not an excuse, but it's helpful context to note that it isn't something distinctive about this generation. just like i don't slag off boomers as much for being afraid of hip hop. being afraid of young people's music is just what old people do. doesn't make it okay, but it mitigates.

but i'm not going to give the old people a pass for sacrificing their children's/grandchildren's opportunities because they're xenophobic just because young people didn't stand up. it's still wrong, regardless of the amount of follow-through from the opposition.

i don't know how you'd put the choice to leave the eu in a non-binary way. i guess the uk was already only partly in the eu, so maybe they could be even less in the eu without completely leaving, but it seems like it would quickly get pointless in that pursuit. feel free to explain how i'm wrong about that, because it's certainly possible.


Only way I could think it might work would be to do away with Europe-wide regulation from Brussels (EU parliament) to allow a country to maintain its legislative sovereignty while doing away with individual country administrivia that inhibits opportunity (like passport controls, emissions standards, freight controls).

A lot could be achieved by adopting a common set of standards without ceding individual sovereignty

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07-01-2016, 11:09 PM
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(07-01-2016 03:41 AM)leonbray Wrote:  Only way I could think it might work would be to do away with Europe-wide regulation from Brussels (EU parliament) to allow a country to maintain its legislative sovereignty while doing away with individual country administrivia that inhibits opportunity (like passport controls, emissions standards, freight controls).

that sounds like dunking something in water without letting it get wet.

(07-01-2016 03:41 AM)leonbray Wrote:  A lot could be achieved by adopting a common set of standards without ceding individual sovereignty

that would be great if everyone had the same goals, but everything would be easy if everyone had the same goals. once nations start disagreeing, then it becomes toothless recommendations and a huge free rider problem.
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07-03-2016, 09:53 AM
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The EU works very well, for the most of it. Its image problem comes essentially from national governments using the EU as a scapegoat.
if the UK had spent half the energy they spent trying to get exceptions in helping improuve it, the EU would be a really great institution. The same is valid for all different national states.
And if people need a reminder for what the point of a EU is, here's a stark, one hundred years old, one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme

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07-05-2016, 08:29 AM
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RE: How I love to live in the counrtyside.
(07-01-2016 12:21 AM)frankdouglason Wrote:  millennials need to vote more. no doubts there. i don't think it's because they don't care. i think it's because they feel that it wouldn't make a difference. there's room for debate as to whether they're right about that (mostly depending on whether you look at it in a macro or micro scale), but it's a bad state of affairs nonetheless.

young people never vote as much as old people. that's not new. it's not an excuse, but it's helpful context to note that it isn't something distinctive about this generation. just like i don't slag off boomers as much for being afraid of hip hop. being afraid of young people's music is just what old people do. doesn't make it okay, but it mitigates.

The younger generations surprised everyone and came out in force to vote in the last Canadian General Election, which meant a surprise majority for the Liberals. I think Justin Trudeau caught their imagination and ran a campaign that targeted them more. Hopefully it leads to more of a trend of engaging younger voters. I think in the past it's been a vicious cycle, younger voters don't turn out, so parties ignore them to chase the demographic that does, which leaves them disengaged and less likely to vote.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the US election with no candidate running on a socialist agenda, which seems to be what younger generations favour.

The whole Brexit thing is scary, especially how it seems to have legitimised some hate groups into becoming far more public whilst also destroying both of the main political parties. Hopefully it all settles down soon and some common sense is applied to the situation. I don't think it will become clear if it was the right decision for maybe 10 years. I'm certainly glad to be the other side of the pond while it unfolds though.
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07-05-2016, 09:17 PM
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(07-05-2016 08:29 AM)chemics Wrote:  The younger generations surprised everyone and came out in force to vote in the last Canadian General Election, which meant a surprise majority for the Liberals. I think Justin Trudeau caught their imagination and ran a campaign that targeted them more. Hopefully it leads to more of a trend of engaging younger voters. I think in the past it's been a vicious cycle, younger voters don't turn out, so parties ignore them to chase the demographic that does, which leaves them disengaged and less likely to vote.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the US election with no candidate running on a socialist agenda, which seems to be what younger generations favour.

young americans came heart-breakingly close with bernie. i just hope his defeat in the primary isn't used as an excuse by his many supporters to get cynical and apathetic.
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07-05-2016, 11:46 PM
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(07-05-2016 09:17 PM)frankdouglason Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 08:29 AM)chemics Wrote:  The younger generations surprised everyone and came out in force to vote in the last Canadian General Election, which meant a surprise majority for the Liberals. I think Justin Trudeau caught their imagination and ran a campaign that targeted them more. Hopefully it leads to more of a trend of engaging younger voters. I think in the past it's been a vicious cycle, younger voters don't turn out, so parties ignore them to chase the demographic that does, which leaves them disengaged and less likely to vote.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the US election with no candidate running on a socialist agenda, which seems to be what younger generations favour.

young americans came heart-breakingly close with bernie. i just hope his defeat in the primary isn't used as an excuse by his many supporters to get cynical and apathetic.

It appears that many registered voters on both sides don't want to vote as they see the result as a lose - lose, particularly after Clinton got let off this morning by the FBI.

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07-06-2016, 01:02 AM
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(07-05-2016 11:46 PM)leonbray Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 09:17 PM)frankdouglason Wrote:  
(07-05-2016 08:29 AM)chemics Wrote:  The younger generations surprised everyone and came out in force to vote in the last Canadian General Election, which meant a surprise majority for the Liberals. I think Justin Trudeau caught their imagination and ran a campaign that targeted them more. Hopefully it leads to more of a trend of engaging younger voters. I think in the past it's been a vicious cycle, younger voters don't turn out, so parties ignore them to chase the demographic that does, which leaves them disengaged and less likely to vote.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the US election with no candidate running on a socialist agenda, which seems to be what younger generations favour.

young americans came heart-breakingly close with bernie. i just hope his defeat in the primary isn't used as an excuse by his many supporters to get cynical and apathetic.

It appears that many registered voters on both sides don't want to vote as they see the result as a lose - lose, particularly after Clinton got let off this morning by the FBI.

yeah, the two major party candidates have the first and second highest negative polling of any major party candidate ever. third-party candidates who nobody has heard of are polling at 10%. it's going to be a weird and ugly election.
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07-07-2016, 10:04 AM (This post was last modified: 07-07-2016 10:05 AM by Jackson.)
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(07-06-2016 01:02 AM)frankdouglason Wrote:  it's going to be a weird and ugly election.

Which means a weird and ugly 4 years...

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07-07-2016, 01:24 PM
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I'm going on record here to say that I don't care for either U.S. Candidate. Either one - I hope it is only 4 years.

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07-09-2016, 11:24 AM
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(06-30-2016 12:18 AM)leonbray Wrote:  ...
Check the voting statistics.

If the younger generations has chosen to vote, then the result would have been different. Thy have let people who will be dead in 20 years determine their future

Some analysts have extrapolated that only 36% of the 18-24 age group voted and they voted 64% to remain. As opposed to the 65+ age group, which had an estimated 83% turnout and voted 58% to leave. (I know there are other factors here like the total population in each age group and that voting in the age group where there was so low a turnout, might be skewed)
...

In fact your parenthetical sentence is correct: if the same proportion of young people voted as older voters, and as long as their voting for the two options was the same as their young colleagues who did vote, 'Leave' would still have won by around 600,000 votes.

So the ageism trope is just as inaccurate, partial and divisive as most of the other bollox spouted during the campaign (i.e. mostly, but far from exclusively, by the Leave camp).

I'm sure the warm feelings of sovereignty are going to come as a great comfort to all those poor people in the neglected North and West (who predominantly voted Leave) as their P45s drop on their front door mats in the coming few years...

Anyway, I've just listened to Surtees Interview ptII and Lewis is on pole at the 'stone Cool

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07-14-2016, 05:17 PM
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Bastille Day!
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07-14-2016, 07:25 PM
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Nice ..............

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