The American-based Cypher Group has submitted an official application to join the Formula 1 grid next year, after confirming a tie-up with driver Jonathan Summerton.
Cypher is believed to include former members of the failed Team US F1, who are adamant that the United States is able to produce a competitive grand prix outfit despite failing with the Charlotte-based operation.
In a statement issued overnight - and just hours after ART Grand Prix announced it was pulling out of its plans to move into F1 - Cypher said: "We have officially submitted our candidature and hope that we will shortly be selected by the FIA as the 13th entry in the 2011 FIA Formula One World Championship. We aspire to bring America's red, white, and blue back into Formula 1."
Summerton, who has raced successfully in F3 and A1GP, had been linked with US F1 and is pushing hard to make the move into grand prix racing.
The Cypher statement added: "Jonathan is capable of racing against the top Formula 1 drivers and we hope to be able to give him a competitive car. We look forward to the opportunity of being on the starting grid in 2011."
Cypher looks set to be going up against Epsilon Euskadi, Stefan GP and Durango for the 13th slot on the F1 grid. The effort is also totally separate from the push by former US F1 representative Parris Mullins to lead American efforts into a tie-up with a current team.
i like the way americans think the colors red, white, and blue are distinctly american. as if they're not also the colors of half the other countries in the world.
I can see a line-up of Summerton and JV.
Well Epsilon seem to have a good facility, so I hope they have money. Stefan seems to be some kind of a money laundring operation. Anyway if they have a car ready as claimed, they should have struck a deal with Pirelli, and be testing them now. As for durango? Since they failed to raise the cash to even race in GP2 why should they even be considered for F1? I'm not sure what to think of the Cypher entry, what kind of American team races in French colors...
F1 is a difficult sport. I think the FIA may as well just dismiss all entries. Though I'm curious About Epsilon, even if they're name isn't so cool. I think these teams should find a way into F1 through HRT. Epsilon is probably in the best position to do so being spanish.
(07-08-2010 07:38 AM)Yaaay Wrote: [ -> ][i]The American-based Cypher Group has submitted an official application to join the Formula 1 grid next year, after confirming a tie-up with driver Jonathan Summerton.
Cypher is believed to include former members of the failed Team US F1, who are adamant that the United States is able to produce a competitive grand prix outfit despite failing with the Charlotte-based operation.
This was mentioned by Autosport Portugal around the Canadian GrandPrix, I think. I may have posted it somewhere but can't remember where and I'm too lazy to search
Autosport Portugal rulez!
(07-09-2010 11:35 PM)Baumgartnerfan Wrote: [ -> ]Well Epsilon seem to have a good facility, so I hope they have money.
Last night Joe Saward said Epsilon Euskadi have got the 'third smartest headquarters in F1 after McLaren and Williams'. He clearly thinks they're going to get in.
He also thinks ART will get in by buying HRT. Presumably they'll save money on the single letter logo change...
(07-10-2010 07:09 AM)Miguel Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2010 07:38 AM)Yaaay Wrote: [ -> ][i]The American-based Cypher Group has submitted an official application to join the Formula 1 grid next year, after confirming a tie-up with driver Jonathan Summerton.
Cypher is believed to include former members of the failed Team US F1, who are adamant that the United States is able to produce a competitive grand prix outfit despite failing with the Charlotte-based operation.
This was mentioned by Autosport Portugal around the Canadian GrandPrix, I think. I may have posted it somewhere but can't remember where and I'm too lazy to search
Autosport Portugal rulez!
they run every rumor as if it's a news story. then when the news comes out, they've always got it covered, along with equal amounts of rubbish conjecture. very impressive.
(07-10-2010 12:00 PM)drmarkf Wrote: [ -> ] (07-09-2010 11:35 PM)Baumgartnerfan Wrote: [ -> ]Well Epsilon seem to have a good facility, so I hope they have money.
Last night Joe Saward said Epsilon Euskadi have got the 'third smartest headquarters in F1 after McLaren and Williams'. He clearly thinks they're going to get in.
He also thinks ART will get in by buying HRT. Presumably they'll save money on the single letter logo change...
I wonder why we don't see teams merge. I think Epsilon and Campos could have made a joint entry and left out Dallara, and the HRT thing would have never happened. They dropped dallara, and even if HRT manage to race next year, it'll be like the 2001 Minardi where they just saw off bits and sticky tape other bits just to meet regulations. Kinda lame. I think Virgin are quiet because they are probably renting a wind tunnel for next years car, and they'll be fine.
I thought ART gave up on it's F1 ambition in the short term. As it is I hope epsilon change their name, and if they don't get in next year, i reckon none of the entries should.
anyone been checking out stefangp.com? their campaign of getting fans send in photos of 'we want sgp' are pretty tame. The latest winner is of a pet ferret.
Joe thought ART were giving up on the 13th slot in order to buy HRT for less money than a new entry would cost them.
(07-10-2010 01:28 PM)frankdouglason Wrote: [ -> ]they run every rumor as if it's a news story. then when the news comes out, they've always got it covered, along with equal amounts of rubbish conjecture. very impressive.
Actually, no. They are far more serious and better than that. You may get that impression from my stripped down, oversimplified digests with bits lost in translations.
I think they have pretty good connections and are well accepted by the major players. They post many of the major news ahead of other sites, including Autosport UK, but I only post here major things that have not been posted or discussed elsewhere.
i might be misunderstanding your meaning, miguel, but that sounds like what i said; they run stories that the other outlets aren't comfortable running yet. this means they get the scoop, but they also run stories which end up inaccurate. i wouldn't call them a rumor mill or a tabloid, as that's a bit harsh, but it does mean they lose credibility in my eyes. i'm don't value speed in my media outlets. i value accuracy and analysis.
I think Miguel is saying he only posts here the more "sensational" news stories from .pt, most of what they publish is run of the mill new stories.
(07-08-2010 08:27 AM)frankdouglason Wrote: [ -> ]i like the way americans think the colors red, white, and blue are distinctly american. as if they're not also the colors of half the other countries in the world.
We Americans know those countries (formed before America was founded) are always trying to emulate us with OUR colors
(07-11-2010 03:28 PM)Yaaay Wrote: [ -> ]I think Miguel is saying he only posts here the more "sensational" news stories from .pt, most of what they publish is run of the mill new stories.
and they are clear on how sound they consider the thing to be - that may be one of the bits my laziness leaves out
(07-11-2010 03:54 PM)Miguel Wrote: [ -> ]they are clear on how sound they consider the thing to be
that does make it much better. although at the end of the day, i can't read portuguese, so i'm sure they don't care what i think.
(07-11-2010 03:44 PM)Neonzapper Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2010 08:27 AM)frankdouglason Wrote: [ -> ]i like the way Americans think the colours red, white, and blue are distinctly American. as if they're not also the colours of half the other countries in the world.
We Americans know those countries (formed before America was founded) are always trying to emulate us with OUR colours
The US is of course quite old as countries go, predating for example Italy, Germany, Belgium, India and Canada as those places are currently politically constituted - though admittedly none of these have red, white and blue flags.
LOL - well at least I can console myself that we Canadians (marching as British) did manage to burn down The White House. Heh.
(07-11-2010 08:38 PM)Lephturn Wrote: [ -> ]LOL - well at least I can console myself that we Canadians (marching as British) did manage to burn down The White House. Heh.
Canada - Land of Comedians! I'm sure Canadian History classes have your country taking credit for everything else the British accomplished as well.
Nope, just the bits where the boots on the ground were filled by Canadians. At that point we were part of the British Empire in any case - and most of the redcoats were backed by native fighters as well.
I wish we could take credit for India Pale Ale - but that was the British sailors who came up with that wonderful brew I believe.
I've never tried India Pale Ale, but now that you tout it, I will give it a try! Hey who knows? Maybe Canada and The United States can get drunk together and come up with a jointly-owned F1 team? We've done it with production cars
(07-13-2010 06:10 PM)Neonzapper Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe Canada and The United States can get drunk together and come up with a jointly-owned F1 team?
don't we already have nafta; north american formula team association?
(07-13-2010 06:25 PM)frankdouglason Wrote: [ -> ] (07-13-2010 06:10 PM)Neonzapper Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe Canada and The United States can get drunk together and come up with a jointly-owned F1 team?
don't we already have nafta; north american formula team association?
Yes, but NAFTA included ALL of Mexico as well. By limiting Canada's partnership to include just the United States, only HALF of Mexico will be in the partnership!
so who is left now? i'm very concerned that we could end up with villeneuve racing on the grid next year.
(07-30-2010 05:23 PM)Yaaay Wrote: [ -> ]Cypher Group withdraws F1 application
I wonder if the really retired because of too low sponsorships or just decided that the FIA was taking too long and it was not realistic any more to get a team running for the next season. In that case blaming it on sponsorships would be the smart thing to do, as they wouldn't want to p*** off the FIA and lose any chance to get in at another time.
(07-30-2010 05:47 PM)frankdouglason Wrote: [ -> ]so who is left now? i'm very concerned that we could end up with villeneuve racing on the grid next year.
I think it's now down to Durango/Villeneuve, Epsilon Euskadi and Stefan GP